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  • #199833

    Patrick Tingley
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    I just saw Harbor Freight carries hard cases with pluck foam for pretty reasonable prices… https://www.harborfreight.com/3800-watertight-protective-case-16-516-in-63927.html

    They only have 3 sizes, but if you only need them for small stuff like cameras, looks like a decent deal.

    #199834

    John Russell
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    Yeah, HF is stepping up their game a little.  There’s a few gems in there.  So easy to get sucked into the stores with all the “sales” and “coupons” inundating us.

    #199835

    Patrick Tingley
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    I just bought their 1/2″ battery impact, 1200lb/ft nut busting 863lb/ft tightening…. crazy

    #199836

    Aaron Kravik
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    Watched a guy torque test one and it didn’t come close to 1200. I want to say it was in the neighborhood of 200. Still a super handy tool though! My Ryobi is only 200 and I use it for everything.

    #199837

    John Russell
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    Watched a video of a guy testing one of the Milwaukee High Torque 1/2″.  He set up a bolt through a piece of 1″ plate, then torqued it to 1400ft/lbs using a calibrated digital torque wrench and a torque doubler.  It did loosen it, just barely though.  That’s a lot of force and I don’t think the tool was as pristine after it, but it did do it.  Not often you really need that kind of power, although nice to have if you can afford (and hopefully don’t end up breaking everything with it).

    The HF power tools are usually worth the money, not as well made or precise, but a lot cheaper and will get the job done.  Sort of jonesing for one of their 20 ton presses, add a SWAG Off Road finger break and a few other things like a log splitter, and would be well tooled for not a lot of money.

    #199839

    Aaron Kravik
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    Watched a video of a guy testing one of the Milwaukee High Torque 1/2″. He set up a bolt through a piece of 1″ plate, then torqued it to 1400ft/lbs using a calibrated digital torque wrench and a torque doubler. It did loosen it, just barely though. That’s a lot of force and I don’t think the tool was as pristine after it, but it did do it. Not often you really need that kind of power, although nice to have if you can afford (and hopefully don’t end up breaking everything with it). The HF power tools are usually worth the money, not as well made or precise, but a lot cheaper and will get the job done. Sort of jonesing for one of their 20 ton presses, add a SWAG Off Road finger break and a few other things like a log splitter, and would be well tooled for not a lot of money.

    I think we watch the same guy 😀

    #199840

    Dale Avery
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    Question: These HF cases look exactly like Pelican cases.  Has the Pelican patent expired, or is our gov’t not protecting patenting rights anymore?  I like to find inexpensive products, but I hate cheating American companies and workers.

    Just a personal bias.

    Dale

    #199843

    Patrick Tingley
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    Watched a guy torque test one and it didn’t come close to 1200. I want to say it was in the neighborhood of 200. Still a super handy tool though! My Ryobi is only 200 and I use it for everything.

     

    Well if I don’t like it I can always take it back and get the Milwaukee, but I have not seen anything that far under advertised torque.

     

    #199844

    John Russell
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    Yeah, some of those reviewers are definitely fan boys and will do anything they can to disprove anything besides (insert favorite fanboy logo here), especially with HF stuff

    #199847

    Aaron Kravik
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    Question: These HF cases look exactly like Pelican cases. Has the Pelican patent expired, or is our gov’t not protecting patenting rights anymore? I like to find inexpensive products, but I hate cheating American companies and workers. Just a personal bias. Dale

    Since they’re made in China, US patent laws don’t apply. Unless Pelican applied for a Chinese patent, there is no legal issue (not getting into ethics).

    The design looks different enough, though, that either way they may be in the clear. The pressure equalization valve appears different and the latches appear to be a detent and not a mechanical lock.

    #199849

    John Russell
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    Since they’re made in China, US patent laws don’t apply.

    US patent laws would apply if they are being sold in the US, which they are.  I believe you’re right though, they are different enough that they probably skirt that issue.  I’m sure Pelican (or any other patent holders)lawyers would love to do nothing more than to chase an infringement through the court system at a highly exorbitant hourly rate.

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